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What makes a female athlete a ‘lady’?

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I came across a tweet the other day that raised an interesting point. (And with no live sport to write about, you better believe I’m going to milk it for all that it’s worth.)

BBC Sport presenter Sarah Mulkerrins posed the following question to her followers: “Am I the only one that would remove all mention of ‘ladies’ in women’s sport?” The replies were overwhelmingly in favour of Mulkerrins’ suggestion, with prominent journalists and reporters like Greg Allen, Kieran Cunningham and Jacqui Oatley all siding with the Irishwoman.

All told, of the 100-plus comments and quote retweets, at least 90% agreed that ‘ladies’ should be ditched from the sporting lexicon.

In a follow-up article, Fiona Tomas, a sports reporter for The Telegraph, explained why she “loathes” the word.

“Overt gender marking has always been an inherent problem for women in sport, but the term ‘ladies’ takes it to a whole new level. For me, the term screams physical fragility, reinforces sexist stereotypes and depicts sportswomen as inferior to sportsmen.

“The lady boxers, jockeys and footballers of this world have bigger barriers to size up to as sportswomen - the fight for increased media coverage, having equal opportunities and the battle to change sexist perceptions.

“The word ‘lady’ works against all those aims, feeding Victorian stereotypes that seek to negate and ultimately differentiate, rather than integrate, women’s sport.”

Tomas also highlighted the fact that many English soccer teams have rebranded from ‘ladies’ to ‘women’ in recent times, a trend that was started by Manchester City in 2014. At the time, City and England captain Steph Houghton called it a “very positive name change”.

These days many sports appear to favour ‘women’ over ‘ladies’, at least in an official capacity. Notable exceptions include golf (the Ladies European Tour and the Ladies Professional Golf Association) and tennis (the Ladies’ Singles and Ladies’ Doubles at Wimbledon). Organisers of the grand old English tennis tournament do, at least, refer to the male competitors using the equivalent marker, i.e. gentlemen.

Here in Ireland, the national soccer and rugby teams are both referred to as the Irish women’s team. (In fact, speaking of rugby, the sport’s governing body has renamed the Women’s Rugby World Cup as the Rugby World Cup, removing the gender marker altogether.)

On the other hand, you also have the Ladies Gaelic Football Association and all the teams, players and competitions under their stewardship are almost exclusively referred to as ‘ladies’.

As fate would have it, I had arranged to interview the new Kerry ladies captain, Aislinn Desmond, the day after the Ladies v Women argument cropped up on my timeline. A Kerry footballer since 2009, Desmond is perhaps better placed than most to address the issue. So, did the ‘Kerry lady’ ever consider that being referred to as a ‘lady’ might be a bit old-fashioned?

“Not really,” she admits, “…until I read those comments online. Maybe because it’s called the LGFA, that’s what I’ve always grown up seeing and hearing. I never really thought about it.

“‘Ladies’ isn’t a word I’d use in my day-to-day life. Like, it is old-fashioned. When I saw the comments I did think to myself, ‘Jeez, yeah, that’s so weird’.

“But I’ve only ever known it as ‘ladies football’.”

Ideally, Desmond added, we wouldn’t need to use the terms ‘ladies football’ or ‘women’s football’ at all, it would just be Gaelic football and whether it was women’s team or a men’s team would be irrelevant.

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I ran a poll on my own Instagram just to gauge the general feeling amongst my female followers and the results were interesting. 58% of the women who responded said the use of the word ‘ladies’ in sporting contexts didn’t bother them, while the remaining 42% said they would prefer to see the word ‘women’ being used.

The comments ranged from ‘incredulous that someone is complaining about it’ to ‘incredulous that female athletes are still being called ladies in 2021’. There appears to be no clear consensus, at least not amongst my modest Instagram following, although I should also point out that there were more female athletes on the ‘anti-ladies’ side than the ‘pro-’.

My male followers (who were not asked to vote but still accounted for 60% of all respondents) were almost exclusively on the ‘pro-ladies’ side. Not that it matters.

As a fellow man, it’s obviously not for me to decide whether or not ‘ladies’ is the right term to use either, but I will say that from a journalist’s perspective, it’s not really a word I write with any great enthusiasm. Like most people in 2021, I wouldn’t use ‘ladies’ in the workplace or in any professional environment for that matter, so it does seem a bit out of place.

‘Women’s football’ feels more neutral and respectful, and maybe even a little less condescending, to me than ‘ladies football’ (it should be ladies’, really, but that’s a different can of worms). Although, again, it’s not really for me to say.

 

What do you think? Is the word ‘ladies’ appropriate when it comes to sporting contexts? Email sport@killarneyadvertiser.ie and let us know where you stand. You can also follow Adam on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest talking points.

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Home cup tie for St Paul’s could be epic

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Paudie O’Connor National Cup (Round 1)

Utility Trust St Paul’s v GCU Brunell

Saturday 7.30pm

Killarney Sports and Leisure Centre

The St Paul’s women’s team will be hoping to get their National Cup adventure off the ground on Saturday when they welcome 2024 champions Brunell to Killarney. Tip-off in the Killarney Sports and Leisure Centre is at 7.30pm.

Paul’s have displayed some fine early season form, although their unbeaten start in the Super League came to an abrupt end last weekend when they lost to the Trinity Meteors in Dublin. James Fleming’s side weren’t at their best on the day but they were well in contention heading into the final quarter with the scores at 47-45 in favour of the hosts. The Meteors pushed on in the fourth, however, eventually running out 63-53 winners.

St Paul’s scorers on the night were Maisie Burnham (13), Tara Cousins (12), Lorraine Scanlon (12), Lovisa Hevinder (9), Denise Dunlea (5) and Leah McMahon (2).

The Killarney club are now joint second in the table alongside the Meteors with both teams holding a 4-1 record. Killester are top having won each of their first five games.

Paul’s opponents on Saturday, Brunell, have won three out of five league matches so far.

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The Utility Trust St Paul’s Lakers have now won three of their last four games in Division 1 of the Men’s National League following an impressive home victory over Moycullen in Killarney.

Eoin Carroll and Jack O’Sullivan made significant contributions of the Boys in Black; Carroll hit 17 points and collected 13 rebounds while O’Sullivan had 14 points, 12 rebounds and some spectacular blocks.

Steve Kelly posted 30 points and the durable Sam Grant played every second, adding 21 points along the way.

The Lakers started well before the visitors found their footing and the sides went in level at the half-time break after scores by home captain Carroll. There was still nothing to separate the teams entering the fourth quarter (68-65) but buckets by Carroll, Pablo Murcia and Grant opened up a nine-point lead. Moycullen fought back admirably, however, cutting the deficit to just four, but Luke O’Hea’s charges held firm to prevail by eight (88-80).

Next up is a cup tie against the Tipperary Talons, a side they defeated by 30 points just a couple of weeks ago. The cup can be very different to the league, though, and they will need another solid performance to advance to the next round. Tip-off in in Killenaule is at 6.30pm on Saturday.

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Chances of Kerry v Cork Munster final in 2026 decrease as Munster GAA delay seeding plan

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After facing a backlash from Limerick, Clare, Waterford and Tipperary players, Munster GAA have postponed their plan to keep Cork and Kerry separate in the 2026 Munster Football Championship.

The new seeding system – which gives the two highest ranked Munster teams in the National League byes to separate semi-finals – will now come into play in 2027, twelve months later than initially planned.

This will give Clare and Limerick a chance to earn promotion to Division 2 of the league, potentially overtaking Cork if the Rebels were to get relegated to Division 3.

Despite traditionally being the two main contenders for Munster football honours, Kerry and Cork haven’t met in a provincial decider since 2021. The Kingdom have won each of the finals since then (one versus Limerick and three versus Clare) by an average margin of 15.75 points.

More high-profile Kerry v Cork finals might be desirable for fans of those teams, businesses in Killarney and Cork, and neutrals alike but Munster GAA’s plans to effectively keep the great rivals on opposite sides of the draw understandably drew criticism from the other participating counties. A statement by the GPA confirmed that players from Limerick, Clare, Waterford and Tipp had met via Zoom to discuss the matter. They were said to be “deeply disappointed and concerned” by the decision.

The 12-month delay will at least give two of those disaffected teams an opportunity to benefit from the new seeding process.

The draw for the 2026 Munster Football Championship will take place on November 27 under the old rules. As 2025 finalists, Kerry and Clare will get byes to the last four (but they will not necessarily be kept apart).

Nine members of Kerry’s squad are up for All-Stars at tonight’s awards ceremony in Dublin with Joe O’Connor and David Clifford also in contention for the prestigious Footballer of the Year award.

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